Guys, help me pick out some [new to me] hops...
#1
Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:50 PM
#2
Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:53 PM
#3
Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:54 PM
The old English classics are hard to beat: EKG, Challenger, Northdown, Target, Northern Brewer. That is, if you're looking to make mostly/all English type ales with S-04.
Otherwise, the hops you mention above would be good to experiment with in a beer with S-04.
#4
Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:55 PM
#5
Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:02 PM
#6
Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:19 PM
I've had good success with Amarillo, Centennial, Columbus, Citra, Cascade, and Liberty in beers fermented with English yeasts, and I think S-04 would play nicely with any/all of these.
Hops that play up the citrus, along with some spice and a bit of pine, but none of the harshness like I get from hops like Chinook.
#7
Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:26 PM
Most of those hops I use on a semi-regular basis. I have Columbus in the house as well as Cascade, Liberty and Amarillo. I just made an Amarillo-Citra Pale Ale on Friday. Chinook is something I have stayed away from for awhile. One issue I have with "new" hops is that I sometimes end up making a beer that I don't like either because I misused the hops or I just didn't care for the hop's character. I'm constantly getting emails from places like Farmhouse Supply listing all of the new hops that are available and there will be 8 varieties listed that I have never heard of!I've had good success with Amarillo, Centennial, Columbus, Citra, Cascade, and Liberty in beers fermented with English yeasts, and I think S-04 would play nicely with any/all of these.
Hops that play up the citrus, along with some spice and a bit of pine, but none of the harshness like I get from hops like Chinook.
#8
Posted 18 July 2017 - 02:30 PM
#9
Posted 18 July 2017 - 03:01 PM
I'll consider that. I used it once many, many, many, many years ago (it was a really long time ago ) and I thought they were super-coarse. Not smooth bittering... but I didn't try them late.Use chinook late like zero or whirlpool or dry. Its very nice that way.
#10
Posted 18 July 2017 - 03:30 PM
I'll consider that. I used it once many, many, many, many years ago (it was a really long time ago ) and I thought they were super-coarse. Not smooth bittering... but I didn't try them late.
Yes, when boiled they give a coarse classic AIPA bitterness that you don't find very often anymore. Late/dry they are bold citrus/grapefruit.
Edited by neddles, 18 July 2017 - 03:30 PM.
#11
Posted 19 July 2017 - 03:42 AM
Yes, when boiled they give a coarse classic AIPA bitterness that you don't find very often anymore. Late/dry they are bold citrus/grapefruit.
don't forget the pine!
#12
Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:23 AM
If you want to taste how good Chinook is, try some Penrose Taproom IPA. It's all chinook and one of my favorites.
I think Lemon drop, Azzaca or Eldorodo are good choices. I heard Cashmere is a decent sub for Mosaic, and is publicly available to grow so I was going to give that a try and see if I can add it to the garden.
Oddly enough, Nugget. I had Toppling Goliath's Golden Nugget and had no idea you can get those flavors from nugget!
#13
Posted 19 July 2017 - 05:21 AM
If you want to taste how good Chinook is, try some Penrose Taproom IPA. It's all chinook and one of my favorites.
I think that beer is made with midwest grown Chinook which has a reputation for being unusually fruity and delicious.
Oddly enough, Nugget. I had Toppling Goliath's Golden Nugget and had no idea you can get those flavors from nugget!
I had that for the first time recently too and it was very fresh. Really nice beer overall and hop character in that one.
#14
Posted 19 July 2017 - 05:21 AM
I've used a little nugget towards the end of the boil but it was with other hops so I'm not sure what I got out of it. it is a nice clean bittering hop though.
#15
Posted 19 July 2017 - 05:33 AM
#16
Posted 19 July 2017 - 05:46 AM
Use chinook late like zero or whirlpool or dry. Its very nice that way.
So much this!
#17
Posted 19 July 2017 - 07:15 AM
#18
Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:53 PM
A quick browse through their site shows me hops that I have either never heard of or heard of just in passing with no real idea about it: 007 Golden Hop, Buzz Bullets, Caliente, Calypso, Cashmere, Denali, Apple Crisp, BRU 1, three or four HBC XXX names, Medusa, Pekko and then a bunch with names that start with "exp" including Genghis, Green Machine, Lemon Zest, tone Fruit and Tangerine.
And those are just the domestics.
#19
Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:41 AM
I can't keep all this straight.
#20
Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:06 AM
Me neither. I feel like I want to try new hops but I have also picked up new hops and then didn't care for them so now I have 5 gallons of beer made with New Zealand Bride Of Frankenstein hops that I don't like. I do like citrusy hops like Amarillo so I might place an order for some of these hops that come in 2 oz bags and concentrate on things for bittering (like Azacca, El Dorado, etc) and then some of the finishing hops like Lemon Drop or others citrusy ones assuming that a pale ale made with these hops would be in my wheelhouse. $2-$3 for 2oz packs of these hops could work just as an experiment. Start with El Dorado and then add Lemon Drop and Ella at the end of the boil.I can't keep all this straight.
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