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[positiveContact]

anyone experienced this?  this pils could be really awesome but far from traditional. it would be perfect for a NEIPA.  no lie.

[denny]

Yep.  Terroir counts for at least as much as variety.

[positiveContact]

I knew it counted but I didn't expect it to count this much.

[djinkc]

Every time I bought USA grown nobles there was a marked difference.  Mostly not even close to ones grown across the pond.

[positiveContact]

Well I would def consider using these in a pale ale or ipa.

Next lager I make will get my hood!

[dmtaylor]

My homegrowns in 'Sconsin are NOT fruity at all.  They perfectly emulate Germany.  Maybe that's REALLY why 'Sconsin was so densely populated by Germans.

[Mya]

My homegrowns in 'Sconsin are NOT fruity at all.  They perfectly emulate Germany.  Maybe that's REALLY why 'Sconsin was so densely populated by Germans.

AB grows lot of their own Nobles in Eagle Idaho, way up north

[positiveContact]

AB grows lot of their own Nobles in Eagle Idaho, way up north

 

can you even tell what hops they use when there is so little of them?

[denny]

can you even tell what hops they use when there is so little of them?

 

 

IIRC, they use 17 different varieties together to minimize variation in any one crop year to year.  I don't think you;re supposed to be able to [pick out any one variety.

[positiveContact]

maybe the taste here was the yeast?  b/c after getting through some sludge in the keg today the fruity aspect is extremely reduced.  we are now heading towards pils territory.

[Mya]

maybe the taste here was the yeast?  b/c after getting through some sludge in the keg today the fruity aspect is extremely reduced.  we are now heading towards pils territory.

in my experience, it'll be very pils ish, but there will be a little 'murica making itself known in there too 

[positiveContact]

in my experience, it'll be very pils ish, but there will be a little 'murica making itself known in there too 

 

fuck yeah!

[Big Nake]

I bought them once and used them like German Hallertau. I didn't get 'fruity', I got 'earthy'. As in 'dirty'. They were not horrible but they were not like German Hallertau. I had the same experience with US Tettnanger. I remember also buying something called Styrian Gold hops which were also not good. I thought they were Styrian Goldings which had always been great for me but then someone told me that Styrian Gold and Styrian Goldings were two completely different hops which left me   because it sounded very deceptive.

[positiveContact]

I bought them once and used them like German Hallertau. I didn't get 'fruity', I got 'earthy'. As in 'dirty'. They were not horrible but they were not like German Hallertau. I had the same experience with US Tettnanger. I remember also buying something called Styrian Gold hops which were also not good. I thought they were Styrian Goldings which had always been great for me but then someone told me that Styrian Gold and Styrian Goldings were two completely different hops which left me   because it sounded very deceptive.

 

nothing "dirty" yet.  could have just been that batch you bought.  right now it's still a little too cloudy to tell what the final flavor profile will be like but if I were to guess it will be standard pils with a touch of this fruit in the background.  I wouldn't call it a bad thing.

[denny]

IIRC, American Hallertauer is actually Styrian Goldings...re: Fuggles.

[positiveContact]

IIRC, American Hallertauer is actually Styrian Goldings...re: Fuggles.

 

these don't really remind me of styrian goldings I've had.

[denny]

these don't really remind me of styrian goldings I've had.

 

That's the point...terroir

[dmtaylor]

IIRC, American Hallertauer is actually Styrian Goldings...re: Fuggles.

 

I believe you are thinking of American Tettnang, not Hallertau.

[Mya]

IIRC, American Hallertauer is actually Styrian Goldings...re: Fuggles.

IIrC that's American Tettnanger, all the US Hallertauer I've come across is pretty noble.

[denny]

I believe you are thinking of American Tettnang, not Hallertau.

 

You are correct, sir!

IIrC that's American Tettnanger, all the US Hallertauer I've come across is pretty noble.

 

I plead old age and sickness....as always!