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[positiveContact]

NE IPA time anyone?  I'm really considering it.

[HVB]

Pondering it. Maybe in a few batches.

[HVB]

What are we considering here?  Run off get it to 170-180 and kill the heat and then add hops for a steep for some time and then chill as we normally would?

 

I wonder if I could add the brewtan when I steep the hops of if that needs a boil to "activate"?  I guess and e-mail to Denny or Joe may help there.

 

I may try this with just some two-row and whatever hop I have in excess, most likely Simcoe or Citra, and use a dry yeast to finish it off.

[positiveContact]

What are we considering here?  Run off get it to 170-180 and kill the heat and then add hops for a steep for some time and then chill as we normally would?

 

I wonder if I could add the brewtan when I steep the hops of if that needs a boil to "activate"?  I guess and e-mail to Denny or Joe may help there.

 

I may try this with just some two-row and whatever hop I have in excess, most likely Simcoe or Citra, and use a dry yeast to finish it off.

 

this could be a good contender for a split batch if you have 2 5 gal fermenters.  my ale pails are all pretty old so I'm not sure I trust them to not be harboring nasties in them.  I guess I could risk it though.

 

how hot of a liquid can you put in an ale pail?  I could mash it like a normal 10 gal batch and get it into the kettle.  then heat it up to 170-180F and then draw off about 5-6 gals into an ale pail with hops waiting in it.  then I could just stick it in the basement or the ferm chamber or an ice bath to cool down to pitching temps while I did the other 5 gal like a normal 30 min boil batch.

 

just use US-05 to ferment it.  probably make a pale ale or IPA type of beer.  2-row + crystal whatever  with maybe a little wheat thrown in for fun

Edited by Evil_Morty, 28 March 2017 - 06:29 AM.

[Stains_not_here_man]

This seems like it's most appropriate for hop-forward beers?

[positiveContact]

This seems like it's most appropriate for hop-forward beers?

 

probably.  it could also work well for a wheat beer I would think.  basically anything you don't mind being cloudy.

[Stains_not_here_man]

I'm just thinking without a boil you'll end up with more hop flavor/aroma and less bitterness, wouldn't you?

[positiveContact]

I'm just thinking without a boil you'll end up with more hop flavor/aroma and less bitterness, wouldn't you?

 

I would think so but I think there might be other things going on if you don't have a hot break.

[Stains_not_here_man]

True. I'll let you guys try it and report back

[HVB]

this could be a good contender for a split batch if you have 2 5 gal fermenters.  my ale pails are all pretty old so I'm not sure I trust them to not be harboring nasties in them.  I guess I could risk it though.

 

how hot of a liquid can you put in an ale pail?  I could mash it like a normal 10 gal batch and get it into the kettle.  then heat it up to 170-180F and then draw off about 5-6 gals into an ale pail with hops waiting in it.  then I could just stick it in the basement or the ferm chamber or an ice bath to cool down to pitching temps while I did the other 5 gal like a normal 30 min boil batch.

 

just use US-05 to ferment it.  probably make a pale ale or IPA type of beer.  2-row + crystal whatever  with maybe a little wheat thrown in for fun

I do have 2 SS fermenters for 6g batches.  This is an interesting idea, the split batch.  What would you use for a hoping schedule on the boiled batch?

[positiveContact]

I do have 2 SS fermenters for 6g batches.  This is an interesting idea, the split batch.  What would you use for a hoping schedule on the boiled batch?

 

I can see two ways to go.  if I had a way to estimate the IBUs in the no boil batch of course...

 

1) try to match the IBUs and then add the same amount of flavor/aroma hops at 0 mins

2) boil the batch for 15-30 mins, chill it to 170-180 and then treat it exactly like the no boil batch.

[HVB]

I can see two ways to go.  if I had a way to estimate the IBUs in the no boil batch of course...

 

1) try to match the IBUs and then add the same amount of flavor/aroma hops at 0 mins

2) boil the batch for 15-30 mins, chill it to 170-180 and then treat it exactly like the no boil batch.

 

That is pretty much where I am.  It would show the difference that boiling gives.  I need to build a small system so I can do these at 2.5g batches!

[positiveContact]

That is pretty much where I am.  It would show the difference that boiling gives.  I need to build a small system so I can do these at 2.5g batches!

 

don't you already make 5 gal batches?  you just need two smallish fermenters.  do you have 2 better bottles perhaps?  although those wouldn't be able to take the heat.  that brings me back to my other question - can ale pales made of #2 or whatever it is handle 180F?

Edited by Evil_Morty, 28 March 2017 - 07:22 AM.

[HVB]

don't you already make 5 gal batches?  you just need two smallish fermenters.  do you have 2 better bottles perhaps?  although those wouldn't be able to take the heat.  that brings me back to my other question - can ale pales made of #2 or whatever it is handle 180F?

It is where the element is in the kettle.  It limits boiling less that 3-3.5 gallons at a time.

[neddles]

It is where the element is in the kettle.  It limits boiling less that 3-3.5 gallons at a time.

 

Stovetop, for science.

[HVB]

Stovetop, for science.

it is an option for sure.  I have the pot for a smaller system already just need to do the work. 

[positiveContact]

It is where the element is in the kettle.  It limits boiling less that 3-3.5 gallons at a time.

 

ah!  got it.

[positiveContact]

but yeah - I love the idea of saving time and energy.  I don't even need to get the chiller out!

[HVB]

Right now I am thinking of doing something like a 7g batch.  3.5g will be run out into a corny with hops to ferment in while the other 3.5g will be boiled for 30, chilled to 170 and then run into another corny with hops.  I will most likely use 1.5oz of Simcoe and 1.5oz of Citra in the kegs.

[positiveContact]

I like where this is headed