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[SWAGMAN]

Help an old man out what's the ratio of ox clean and TSP for the poor mans PBW??Memory is the first thing to go and I don't remember what is second.God BlessDominus VobiscumSwagman

[beach]

I use 4 tbsp oxi, 2 tsp TSP, & 4 tbsp sodium carbonate (for the exterely hard water here)/gal hot H20. Works like a charm. Beach

[Kremer]

I mix 2/3 oxy and 1/3 TSP/90 and it works well.

[MakeMeHoppy]

I get by pretty good with just oxyclean by itself.

[ThroatwobblerMangrove]

I get by pretty good with just oxyclean by itself.

Me too but if I had some TSP I'd probably give it a whirl.

[BrewerGeorge]

I used to mix 2/3 oxy to 1/3 TSP or TSP sub, but I don't really do that anymore. Oxy does well enough by itself for me.

[DaBearSox]

I also just use Oxy clean...and have no idea of this TSP you speak of.

[kbhale]

Oxy I buy at Sam club has perfume in it. Works well but it seems I have to rinse more than necessary to get the Oder out.

[BrewerGeorge]

Oxy I buy at Sam club has perfume in it. Works well but it seems I have to rinse more than necessary to get the Oder out.

Oxy Free in the green tub.

[Howie]

I've had good luck with the cheap sh-t from the Family Dollar. Might be off-band but it works pretty good. worth the $3 IMHO

I buy that stuff and mix it with the TSP Substitute. You roughly approach the basic formula of PBW that way, though I think they use some surfactants as well.

[Genesee Ted]

What is TSP?

[Howie]

What is TSP?

Tri Sodium Phosphate. It's a cleaner primarily used in the painting industry. Pretty bad for the environment. TSP Substitute is Sodium Metasilicate. It works well but is better for the environment.Sodium Metasilicate is also one of the primary ingredients in PBW (30%).

[Genesee Ted]

I can get Sodium Metasilicate at a painting store then?

[Howie]

I can get Sodium Metasilicate at a painting store then?

I bought it at Ace Hardware in a 4lb bag I think. Mmarketed as TSP Substitute. Though be careful, as not all TSP Sub is pure Sodium Metasilicate. Then I bought a giant tub of Sun brand oxygen cleaner at the Dollar General.Mixed them 1/3 TSP Sub to 2/3 oxy stuff. Works pretty well

[BrewerGeorge]

If the cheaper alternative to oxy are working for you, no reason to change. However, real oxyclean has more sodium percarbonate while the cheaper ones have more sodium carbonate. The per- is where the oxygen comes from and is more expensive than simple sodium carbonate. Of course, simple carbonate is a good cleaner, too, which is why a solution of PBW or Oxy will continue to clean after it stops releasing oxygen.

[cavman]

Tri Sodium Phosphate. It's a cleaner primarily used in the painting industry. Pretty bad for the environment. TSP Substitute is Sodium Metasilicate. It works well but is better for the environment.Sodium Metasilicate is also one of the primary ingredients in PBW (30%).

I work at a coffee supplier to the big guys like Dunkin and our cleaner is Sodium Tripolyphosphate. I thought TSP was phosphate free should I mix my pure cleaner with Oxy free or not?ETA I can get the cleaner for free so it would be nice if it's useful.

[cavman]

I work at a coffee supplier to the big guys like Dunkin and our cleaner is Sodium Tripolyphosphate. I thought TSP was phosphate free should I mix my pure cleaner with Oxy free or not?ETA I can get the cleaner for free so it would be nice if it's useful.

Okay I got my answer as it is sodium dodecylbenzenesulfonate and will be fine, another product we have is both sodium dodecylbenzenesulfonate and sodium metasilicate. Since sodium dodecylbenzenesulfonate is an active ingredient in Starsan(they use an alternate name but same chemical) I feel fine with it.