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[HVB]

Yes it uses a LOT of hops for 5.5g, but I think it is worth it.  This will get you the hazy, low bitterness huge flavor and aroma type beer that is a "fad" to some but seems to be taking hold to me.

 

My NEIPA

Batch Size - 5.5g

Pre-Boil – 1.048

OG – 1.066

FG-1.012

IBU ~40

SRM 4.2

 

Grain Bill – Mashed at 156 45 minutes

9# (69%) Two Row

2# (15%) Maris Otter

2# (15%) Carafoam

1# table sugar added with 10m left in boil

14g (0%) Midnight Wheat (steeped at end to add color)

 

Hops

14g (0.5oz) Bravo 30 minutes

28g (1oz) Columbus 5 minutes

28g (1oz) Citra 0 minutes

28g (1oz) Galaxy 0 minutes

140g (5oz) Galaxy steep 30 minutes 175*

42g (1.5oz) Citra steep 30 minutes 175*

14g (.5oz) Columbus steep 30 minutes 175*

 

Yeast

Co-Pitch S-05 and S-04 at 67*

 

Dry Hop 1 – 36 hours into fermentation

28g (1oz) Citra

56g (2oz) Galaxy

 

Dry Hop 2 – After 2 day cold crash

28g (1oz) Citra

84g (3oz) Galaxy

 

Water

pH – 5.3

Ca – 106ppm

SO4 – 160ppm

Cl – 71ppm

Brewtan in mash and boil

 

[matt6150]

I thought part of the NE style was to ditch the whirlpool hops and add them all in the DH?

[HVB]

I thought part of the NE style was to ditch the whirlpool hops and add them all in the DH?

Many ways to do this style.  What you reference is done by some but not all.  For my tastes, I need kettle hops in there.  I think the all DH version does not give enough flavor.

[matt6150]

Many ways to do this style. What you reference is done by some but not all. For my tastes, I need kettle hops in there. I think the all DH version does not give enough flavor.

I agree with you there. I did a 3 DH beer similar to yours but with the 1st DH being the first thing in the fermenter. It was basically what I would have used for the whirlpool. I found it lacking.

[HVB]

I agree with you there. I did a 3 DH beer similar to yours but with the 1st DH being the first thing in the fermenter. It was basically what I would have used for the whirlpool. I found it lacking.

Agree, some like it but I am not one of them.  Tree House indicates the use of "kettle" hops so I have to assume WP.  I know Trillium has indicated they save a lot of their hops for the DH but I am not sure if that is on all beers.  Many brewers I have talked to use a kettle addition and then a huge amount of dry hops.

[positiveContact]

S-04 and US-05!  crazy talk!

[HVB]

S-04 and US-05!  crazy talk!

There is some analysis out there that TH is using a combo of S-04,T-58 and WB-06.  I like what S-04 does at a higher temp but I still need a few more points at the end and that is where the 05 comes in for me.

[matt6150]

S-04 and US-05! crazy talk!

I have combined the two as well in the past. It's been awhile but I thought it worked good.

[matt6150]

Drez, have you tried this recipe as a no boil?

[HVB]

Drez, have you tried this recipe as a no boil?

No,  I did a no boil citra APA that was great going into the keg but then turned.  I think it was the use of whole dryhops that may have been questionable.  I threw em out after that beer. 

 

I have to get back to the no boil NEIPA.

[matt6150]

Yeah I would love to hear your thoughts if you brew a no boil of this recipe. See if you notice any difference between the two.

[matt6150]

Galaxy sure isn't cheap to come by these days.

[HVB]

Galaxy sure isn't cheap to come by these days.

No kidding.  Just saw it at 30/#.  Glad I still have 2# left in the freezer.

[matt6150]

No kidding. Just saw it at 30/#. Glad I still have 2# left in the freezer.

Same. I looked around but can't find it any cheaper.

[HVB]

This one kicked on Friday night, hazy til the end.  I plan to make something like it soon but most likley with Citra and Mosaic in the WP and then just Citra and Mosaic Cryo Pellets for the dry hop.

[matt6150]

No boil!

[HVB]

No boil!

That was one thing that crossed my mind as I need to revisit that experiment.  I had thought of a very short 5 or 10 minute boil just to give the brewtan some time.

[matt6150]

That was one thing that crossed my mind as I need to revisit that experiment. I had thought of a very short 5 or 10 minute boil just to give the brewtan some time.

Well if you boil for even a minute that kinda defeats the purpose of a no boil.

[neddles]

To what part of the recipe/process do you attribute the haze and its persistence? Did you use kettle finings? Did you keep it colder than usual?

Edited by neddles, 16 October 2017 - 09:04 AM.

[HVB]

Well if you boil for even a minute that kinda defeats the purpose of a no boil.

sort of, yes.  Fine .. your pressure will make me go no boil!